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Chris Cordry, LMFT's avatar

I don’t have a better word than shaman either, but I do like the Ancient Greek iatromantis or healer-seer as an expression of the archetype. Peter Kingsley argues that the pre-Socratics were not just philosophers but healer-seers and that some of their foundational insights were based on shamanic journeys (much like Jung). And then there was their connection with Abaris, an actual Central Asian shaman. I guess what I’m getting at here is that we do have a Western version of the archetype, it just got lost to history like so much else. Like you, I find Jung’s example instructive in terms of how a Westerner can make the inner journey (like most shamans though, Jung was ‘called’ through a shamanic illness and didn’t really have a choice) but I also find the orthodox Jungian path limited. I also think Jung was wrong that Eastern spiritual paths are categorically wrong for Westerners; there’s too much value in practices like meditation and self-inquiry but Jung was too early to see that. No wonder many Westerners have to go learn from shamans in other cultures; our own lineage got cut off. And frankly it’s what any ‘real’ shaman would do: go learn from someone who knows what they’re doing, even if they’re over in the next valley. However, I don’t think it’s enough to just do that, we also have to find some way of bringing the insights back to our own culture and help ‘our’ people, whatever that means. And that’s what I see you working on, as well as a lot of us who are writing around these issues.

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steveylang's avatar

I love your examples of warriors and farmers. I am reminded of the Alan Watts quote- "The only zen you’ll find on mountaintops is the zen you bring up there with you.”

Also, scarves. All shamans (particularly Western shamans its seems) must wear long scarves for their portrait photos.

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